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Showing posts with label alcoholism. Show all posts
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Monday, August 8, 2011
Homeless Interviews, Conclusion
One of the reasons that I became interested in the plight of the homeless was from learning about my soon to be father-in-law. He is homeless, was homeless, may still be homeless. When we were dating, my now husband was embarrassed to tell me about his father. It wasn’t something he talked about. Mark has graciously agreed to tell his story.
My father’s name is Jack Allen Wait. My mom told me his mother called him a “menopause baby”, born late in his mother’s life. He was at least 7 or 8 years younger than the two older children. A brother and sister. Jack was born in Sioux Falls, SD. My mother told me that he was constantly seeking his mother’s approval. Could never do anything, in his mind, to get her approval. She was always putting him down, never as good as his siblings. He got a GED, dropped out of high school. He was doing apprentice for a newspaper printing company when he got drafted at 19 or 20, approximately 1963, 1964. He met my mother in Oklahoma, at basic training. Did one tour in Vietnam, about 18 months. He never talked about it. Jack was married until I was 21, 22 or 23 years old. He was getting into legal trouble, jail, due to alcoholism, drunk driving. He drank pretty much the entire marriage, except 1980 to 1984. My mother left and moved out with my youngest sister, the next youngest sister stayed with Jack. My oldest sister and I were in college. My mother returned 2 years later then kicked him out. They then divorced. He began to emotionally loose it at that time. At that point he basically was moving around place to place, living off the divorce settlement and his inheritance from his father’s passing.
I asked Mark, when did you find out he was homeless?
I was living in Melbourne. He came to see me and stayed in Florida for about a month. Then about 1998, I got a call from a payphone. My dad said he was in Florida, wanted me to come pick him up. He said he was hitchhiking through the area with a buddy and needed a place to stay for the night. He was there for about a day. They stayed in the garage because the other fellow was a reprobate. A month later he called from Louisiana, said he wanted to get off the road. The guy he was with had beat him up and stole his money, several thousand dollars from gambling. He called, asked me to come get him. I told him no. I sent him a bus ticket to come to Florida to live with me. He started living with me from about January 1999. Cleaned, up, sobered up. Got a job. He was able to save up money to buy a car. Got a better job, offered job at FIT. He then at that point snapped, did not take the job. He was not going to work. Started coming home drunk. Around Memorial Day, 1999. I then told him he had to leave. I had small children. He was a pity drunk. He would get very depressed and whine. I’m a horrible person, etc. Felt sorry for himself. He had some money. He hung around town for months, maybe a year, Aug 2000. He would go through stages. Clean up, get a job, then binge drink 3 days at a time. He would spend every cent. He would have houses, roommates periodically. Found out he was living in the woods at various times during the couple of years. In the winter he would live in with people. In the summer he lived in the woods. He would clean up and visit periodically. He was supposed to come over Thanksgiving 2003 and a week before that I got a police car show up in my driveway wanting to look at my cars. They said there was a report of a car licensed to Jack Wait that was involved in a hit run. Jack had hit a gas pump while drunk and then ran. Ditched the car. Never came for Thanksgiving. He came by after Christmas. Came to the door one day, said he had liver cancer, had to go to VA in Tampa to get checked out. I don’t know if it was true or not. Called a few months later and said everything was fine. He came by a few times later. I have not seen him since 2003. Called in 2005, said that he was sober, living in a half way house in Las Vegas, working with homeless vets there. He was sharing a cell number and an address. I called the number and wrote letters to that address in 2008. Nobody answered, number was disconnected. No mail reply. I have not heard from him since then. My older sister took him in periodically, early 1990s.
If he called you today what would you say?
How are you? Things are different in my life. I would tell him about his grandchildren.
If he needed help?
I would not let him live with me. I don’t need another child. That’s basically what he was.
Would you help him monetarily?
Would you help him monetarily?
I don’t know, probably not. If he was hitchhiking I know it would go to alcohol again. If something happened to him I don’t know if anyone would know how to contact his family.
How does his situation alter your view of other homeless?
Makes me very leery because I saw all the tricks. To me homeless are there because of the choices they make in life and the consequences of their choices. There are so many avenues to go about things. He chose his lifestyle. He wanted no responsibility. He had the whole VA system at his disposal, friends, family. If he had stayed off the alcohol he could have gotten back into society. He wanted to be off the grid.
Do you think it was because of his upbringing?
His self esteem was very lacking. He was told emotions were a weakness. He was told if he felt emotions as a man you are weak. It would be nice to know that he’s doing alright. It’s weird to have a relative that you don’t know if he’s alive or dead. He’s almost 70 years old. It’s odd. I don’t really think about him much. It’s easier to put him off. The only time I think of him is when I see the pictures of him. If I hear something scraping on cement I think of him because when I was 6 until I was 10,11 we were going to build a house and we started building a basement with a tar roof. When it would rain, it would leak. I would wake up in the middle of the night and there would be water on the floor and we would scrape the water up with dust pans into a trash can and hear, scrape, splash, scrape, splash. When we finished he took us to a bar about 30 miles away and he would buy us soda and pizza and we would eat that while he drank. That was kinda the only time I spent with him, sitting in a smoke-filled bar.
In a sad, small way, Mark is lucky. He knew his father. I never knew mine. Another story for another day. So, you see, the homeless are people, hurting people. They are lost children of God, the one sheep that is lost while the other 99 are safe in their field. What do they need? Depends. They are individuals, unique in their own way. The only way to know what they need is to get to know them and find out. Each story I have told was different. Each person became homeless in a different way. The one similar thread, choice. Each person made a choice, a poor choice, which lead to another poor choice. Then, somehow, they lost their way and for whatever reason chose the woods. God gave us free will, the ability to make choices. However, the good news is The Shepherd is still looking for the lost sheep and each of these people have the ability to choose to re- you choose the word: repent, reconnect, reconcile, recover, reclaim, recover, reform, rectify their life.
Monday, August 1, 2011
The Homeless Interviews #14
If one were to take a slice of any population you would find people of high intelligence and low intelligence, people with mental illness and those without. The same can be said for the homeless population. Case in point, Carl and now "Fred". Fred, to me is pretty much the polar opposite of Carl. The only thing they have in common is their homelessness.
*** Tell me about your childhood.
I was born in Tambohol New York, upstate NY somewhere. I think. I'm not sure. That was 39 years ago. I don't remember where that was. My parents, they were alright. Right now I'm just trying to get to see my mom. She is up in Virginia. I don't care where my dad is. Me and him ain't gettin along, so...
*** What was life like when you were little?
Working all the time. Doing everything, you know. We kept moving around. I had to quit school because I was working. That was back in 1988. I moved here in '95, to Florida. And since then I've been on my own.
*** So you live with a group?
*** Do you have any brothers or sisters?
Yeah. They are all in Virginia. Other than that, that's my life. In a nut shell. *** What did you/do you do for work?
I was pulling telephone cable. Now I'm doing construction. I was working in a bar doing security. I do everything. Maintainence, pressure washing, everything. So. That's everything. But right now I am working three jobs. 7 days a week. *** Where do you live now?
On the street. *** How old were you when you started living on the streets?
Around 37 or 38. ( can you tell me how it happened) I don't remember how it happened. I was working at Disney then I hurt my shoulder there. I got fired from there. Then, I went home one night and my aunt told me to get out. I was staying with my aunt for a little while. Since then I ain't talked to them. I went in the woods. Laid where I could. Since then I've been homeless. That's been about it. *** Do see a future with you getting off the streets?
Nah. I ain't goin to get off the streets. It saves me money that way. I ain't got no light bill. I got no rent. I got nothing. *** So, you have job, you have income... Are you content, happy?
Pretty much. Yeah. *** Do you feel safe where you are living?
Oh yeah. See I remodel houses for these guys. I got two of them that works with me that stays there with me. Other than that...Yeah. A few other people. Other than that, that's it.
( I didn't need to ask him about church because Robert attends my church. I see him pretty much every time I am there. He comes early, helps out with events. If he doesn't come, someone goes to look for him.)
*** What are the guys like that you live with?
They alright. I work with them every day.
*** How did you get involved ( with the shelter)? I had to stay outside. I was homeless so I just come up here one day. The people, the volunteeers here, they came around and invited me over to church and I been doin it ever since. I don't know why, but I do. Now I can't leave it. I love it. (he laughs) I was going up in N. Carolina. I was going to church of God for a little while (in a city a little ways a way). But it was far and hard to get a ride every morning. When I was working at the bar here I was still coming to church but I wasn't getting off work until 4 in the morning. I don't know how I made it to church. (he laughs) but I done it.
*** You are the first I've talked to who does not want to get out of the woods. Are there others or is it just you?
*** How do you think the homeless are treated?
Just me. That I know of. I can't afford rent. I cannot afford this, I cannot afford that. The three jobs are kinda the same. I help out. You get 20$ here, 20$ there. That's
Not enough to do nothing with.
*** So if you were making enough?
Yeah if I was making enough I'd have my own place right now. *** It's not that you don't want to, it's you cannot afford it.
Uh huh. Right now we been staying in houses we been remodeling, with no water and all that. Out of the woods. To see what it's like to have a home. *** What do you do when it's rainy or really cold?
Cover up with about 50 blankets. Try to stay out of the rain. *** Tell me about a typical day.
Work. I work 7 days a week. Other than that. It's just like a typical day of the week. I gets me by.
*** What do you think about the future? Do you think about it at all?
No. When the time comes it comes. I don't know where I'll be the next day. I might be out of town working. I don't think like that. I don't think ahead cause normally it don't come true. But other than that, It don't bother me much. *** Do you see a lot of drug and alcohol abuse of guys in the woods?
Oh yeah. Yep I sure do. *** Do you think they, including yourself, are there because of it?
Probably got something to do with it. I can't stop drinking. I'm thinking about a beer right now. *** Do you consider yourself an alcoholic?
Yeah. I sure would. *** Do you think if you weren't drinking things would be different?
Nope. It's just the way I got my mind set. Normally you put something to your mind you do it. Not real good. I mean I ain't treated that good. I mean if it weren't for this place I'd have no place at all. They help out with stuff you need, you know.
*** Is there anything you would like to tell people?
*** Do you get bothered by the police much?
No not really. The only time we really got bothered with them is when they were kicking us, all of us out. That about the only time. Or if you're doing something wrong. *** Do you ever get robbed or gotten attacked?
No I don't worry too much with that. I don't play games. What's mine is mine. We all watch out for each other. It's a little community type. But other than that.... Not really. Just tell them to keep what they got. If you got a house, keep it. You know, don't overdo it. If you're doin drugs, quit. Go to church. If your homeless, come up here.
(A few weeks after this interview Fred has himself committed to a mental hospital for 72 hour observation because of his alcohol addition. He struggles every day, however, he knows who to turn to for help.)
Tuesday, July 19, 2011
The Homeless Interviews #7
Today we are back to Scott, the director. Did you know that Jesus was homeless? Luke 9:58 "Jesus replied, Foxes have dens and birds have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head."
*** What is the one thing a typical homeless person wants, and you said socks and underwear.
Socks and underwear. You mean I tell you what, if that was all we did I think they would be happy, not now because of all the other stuff we do.
*** Do they want to know Jesus?
Many of them do. Some of them are very angry at God. Some of them were brought up in Christian homes that were over zealous and beat on them with the Bible. Used it very improperly, misquoted it, manipulated them with it. And so we are trying to build that trust. We’ve got people who get upset with us because they do not see us all carrying around Bibles, sitting down with scriptures all day, trying to get them to understand that look, they do not want to know how much you know until they see how much you care. Okay, so we have taken a very different approach to it. Believe me, hang around here enough you are going to hear God all the time in this place. We are starting a new program using the Recovery Bible. We are setting up a recovery group right here that meets on Tuesdays for those people who will not go into a program but it is like AA except for the fact that instead of a ‘higher power’ we tell them about Jesus Christ. We do not soften the edges of it.
*** Do you find that once they find Jesus they think their life will become normal?
No, becuase the first thing we tell them is, I cannot tell you if you are ever getting out of the woods and I will personally take someone to the woodshed who tells them otherwise. It is real important to say to them, look, I do not know why God has allowed this. I am one who believes God has ordained or allowed everything. So if he has allowed it all I can see is step back and ask what is he trying to get us to learn? How is He using this. This has been true throughout biblical times so why should that change now? Why would God ask me to walk away from a 6-figure income after I had been homeless? I have been at both ends and because he wanted me to know both.
*** So why do those volunteers come who want nothing to do with the homeless?
Guilt. I think often, guilt. The other is, most are people who do not have much themselves, on the verge of homelessness themselves. They really get it. They understand they are a couple of paychecks away.
***They want to help but they do not want to have anything to do with the actual person?
Well, no they do. I’m saying there are 2 different groups. There are those that want nothing to do with homelessness but all of a sudden it is like ‘oh my gosh’ these are just real people with various strugges, but real people. They are really just a reflection of society. It drives me crazy when the news says a homeless guy killed somebody. If he was stockbrocker would you say a stockbrocker killed somebody? No. No, he did not kill somebody because he is homeless. He killed somebody because he is a murderer who happened to live in the woods. that just makes me crazy. So we’ve got the people who you know have a preconcieved idea, a lot of preconcieved ideas and then you have people who are just so close themselves. They have had illness in their family, they have lost jobs, they have seen careers go down the toilet. They have seen all of these things and so I think they are drawn to be a part of the change. If you came in here and see them you go, okay, alright, yeah, I know they are struggling. Those are also the people that are our money people, too. The people who give the most have the least. It is crazy. It is absolutely crazy. I mean we have had some fairly substantial donations. Our largest two donators, one owns 4 McDonalds and the other is homeless. Is this a crazy world we live in? They both gave us 5,000$. ***Tell me the most encouraging story about a specific person.
Probably someone like Kevin C. KC is a war veteran, decorated soldier who could not deal with the world when he came out of it. He basically just became...he did drugs and alcohol, but alcohol became his thing. He basically stayed pretty fickle for abut 40 years. We just loved on him. He was mean and nasty and gruff. He was an SOB most of the time. You know, you sit there and part of you just says, why am I even bothering. As we got to know him and he got to know us and we got to know his story the door opened and God just opened some really neat doors to minister to him and then Frank G. Frank is here every Tuesday now from about 1 to 4 and Frankie has a street ministry and Matthew’s Hope gave him a chance to touch these people at least twice a week every Tuesday and every Saturday night. He is a former alcholic and drug addict and he is not afraid to go anywhere. He is a lot like I am. God placed Frankie here at a critical time because I could not stretch any further. Frankie came to me and I kind of knew him. I had spoken at a men’s recovery group a couple of years earlier, he remembered me and he contacted me and he just wanted to come and I kind of pushed him off a little bit. I said Frankie I want you see what we are doing first. So he came out, he and his wife, Cindy, she is former marine, former alcoholic as well. They are a mess. They are in the process of loosing their own home. He has been very instrumental in helping getting a place with various programs and he kind of took Kevin under his wing, took it a step further and Kevin, he had veteran’s benefits. We were able to help him to get those and get him into a veteran’s program and he is clean now and now he fell off this last week. 100 days and he fell off. He was so ashamed, but you know what, that’s what happens. He made it 100 days. So you got to kind of look at it that way and if you meet him he looks nothing like he did when he started. He could barely walk. Even well after he quit drinking because his system was so screwed up his equilibrium was like all over the place and we had a hard time because of the weakness of his body to get him in various programs. We finally got him into a VA program and now he is getting ready to go into his next step which I think will be another program, disability. He is living in an RV and he’s got his retirement and he came by here the other day and helped build a desk. In fact he stuck his number inside my desk and he said, you know, anytime you need me just call and so we have had some really neat success stories and there are more and but those are some of the coolest. Every week there is a different cool one and it is different levels and now I have even seen some children and women.
*Most discouraging?
One of the most discouraging stories is Diane. Diane was a crack head when we got ahold of her and we got her clean and got her working at McD’s helped her to get a little RV she was renting. Got her away from her homeless husband, not real husband. Got all of her teeth pulled. Her teeth were just rotten from the meth, got her medical and dental care. Got her all cleaned up. Got her a new set of dentures. She realized she really needed to get out of the area to take her life to the next level and so she had a way to go to I think N.C. Got hold of a McD up there, she said I’m a current employee, they would hire her before she ever came up so at least had her job. She gets up there and lasts a month and she shows up back here with the guy again. When she came back we did not fall all over her. We did it on purpose. We would do it again but they have to make that decision. Much like any other alcholic, drug addict, whatever you are dealing with. Homelessness is almost an addiction, it really is in a weird way. Some of this is real heartbreaking, and then when she was leaving she bit the hands off a lot of people that helped her and even the hands of people here. It was hurtful but it was one of those things that there were people who would say, you know, what the hell. I understand why and what we need to do is say, okay God, this is... once again we need to trust in God’s timing and purpose.
Tuesday, July 12, 2011
The Homeless Interviews #4
This is part 2 of Al. As I talked to these people, I wanted to know more about their families. What were their parents like? What was the common thread in all of them?
Colleen: Is your current situation your fault? Is it societies fault? Someone else?
Al: I believe my situation stems from the disease of addiction for which there is no known cure except for abstinence and meetings and stuff like that. It is a mental disorder type thing. Thinking that you can use and not want it again. It is insanity. I think it has stemmed from that but the reality of it is, by my choice. It was by my choice. Nobody forced me to do what I did. Mom lives nearby. She lets me bathe there. She lets me eat there sometimes I cannot live there because my stepdad, we had issues years ago and he was stealing drugs and fighting with him and stuff like that. I cannot stay. You know, I am trying to stay out of jail. I do not tolerate a whole lot. My mom never used. He(the step-dad) used to drink but he dont drink. he is a very unforgiving person. He is a person who holds a grudge until the day he dies.
Colleen: Is your current situation your fault? Is it societies fault? Someone else?
Al: I believe my situation stems from the disease of addiction for which there is no known cure except for abstinence and meetings and stuff like that. It is a mental disorder type thing. Thinking that you can use and not want it again. It is insanity. I think it has stemmed from that but the reality of it is, by my choice. It was by my choice. Nobody forced me to do what I did. Mom lives nearby. She lets me bathe there. She lets me eat there sometimes I cannot live there because my stepdad, we had issues years ago and he was stealing drugs and fighting with him and stuff like that. I cannot stay. You know, I am trying to stay out of jail. I do not tolerate a whole lot. My mom never used. He(the step-dad) used to drink but he dont drink. he is a very unforgiving person. He is a person who holds a grudge until the day he dies.
Colleen: Do you see any mental issues in yourself?
Al: Yeah I have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and paranoid schizophrenia. I have been on medication. I am not at present on medication. I got a psychiatric in prison the whole time and I was on medication and I seen a psychiatrist every month and counselors all the time, this and that, and I got out. Before I got out of prison they put me on disability. They did my application for me for the social security administration and all that and then when I got out I missed my appointment for the doctor and they denied me. So I’ve got to reapply. I’m supposed to be on medication. Department of corrections is full of men and women that are drug addicts and alcoholics that suffer from the disease of additiction, you know what I am saying, and they supply their addiction by stealing, prostitution, laundering, I mean whatever. Whatever you got to do to supply your addition and they do not have the funding anymore to help with counseling and drug rehab and all that now. I mean you know, the state is going broke and they just do not have money. They do not have the money for any programs so when you do go to prison or jail you just sit there and you sit there and amongst other felons that try to help you plot on how you are going to do it better the next time to get out of it. You know what I mean? Instead of working on the issues that are involved, the thinking issues with addiction.
Colleen: What kind of work do you do?
Al: I'm a certified welder. I got that in prison but I have not been able to find a job here because I do not have an ID. That’s why I am here. They are supposed to help me get that. And then I’ve never been on these buses. I have to learn to read the bus schedules and I do not have any money for bus passes. I just feel like I’m stuck you know what I mean? I’m stuck. Every day I get up I do not have the proper ID to get a job. But I still try to get side jobs and odd jobs and whatever I can do.
*** I noticed a lot of the people I spoke to felt 'stuck'. They messed up, or lost a job, or however they came to be homeless and now they don't have any idea what to do. How do you get an ID if you have no means? How do you travel? If your house burned down how do you get the necessary documents to get a job? I mean, if I lost my job and my husband lost his job, we'd be homeless in what, 2-3 months? How many of us have enough savings to pay the bills until we find a job?
Close family ties or lack thereof was another big common factor as Al mentioned. More on that next time.
Sunday, July 10, 2011
The Homeless Interviews #3
I will get back to Scott later. Today's interview is with a young man I will call Al. He is 40 years old and this was his second day at Matthew's Hope. He was very nervous to talk to me. I completely understood that. All of the homeless I spoke to were nervous, leery, afraid of me in some ways. With each interview I started with their childhood in order for them to see that I was interested in who they were as a person, not simply their current situation. Here is Al's story.
Colleen: Tell me about your childhood and then how you became homeless.
Al: I was born in Rhode Island, a small town in Rhode Island. My mom and dad got divorced when I was 7 or 8. Father was an alcoholic. Chronic alcholic. Once my mom and dad got divorced my mom decided to move to Florida so my mom packed me and my brother up and we moved to Florida I never went to HS. I quit school in 9th. My girlfriend got pregnant. We were both 15 years old. I had my first child when I was 15. And then I was introduced to crack cocaine. That was 1985, 1986. I went to rehab. I was with her. He was born while I was in rehab. I got out of rehab and she was 17 and stayed clean and sober for 4 years. After that I relapsed. Ever since then I have been in out of jail. I spent my life in department of corrections. Dealing with addiction. So, just got out. I spent 7.5 years. I just got out not long ago. I did so much damage in the past to people. Burnt so many bridges when I was on drugs that nobody wants to help me or anything like that. My family don’t want to talk me, nothing like that. So now I am homeless pretty much. I do not have any ID. I have a department of corrections ID. So any job I applied for as soon as they see that they do not even want to look at me, they dont want to talk to me. I’m having a hard time. Now I am here trying to get some clothes and stuff like that.
Colleen: Tell me about your childhood and then how you became homeless.
Al: I was born in Rhode Island, a small town in Rhode Island. My mom and dad got divorced when I was 7 or 8. Father was an alcoholic. Chronic alcholic. Once my mom and dad got divorced my mom decided to move to Florida so my mom packed me and my brother up and we moved to Florida I never went to HS. I quit school in 9th. My girlfriend got pregnant. We were both 15 years old. I had my first child when I was 15. And then I was introduced to crack cocaine. That was 1985, 1986. I went to rehab. I was with her. He was born while I was in rehab. I got out of rehab and she was 17 and stayed clean and sober for 4 years. After that I relapsed. Ever since then I have been in out of jail. I spent my life in department of corrections. Dealing with addiction. So, just got out. I spent 7.5 years. I just got out not long ago. I did so much damage in the past to people. Burnt so many bridges when I was on drugs that nobody wants to help me or anything like that. My family don’t want to talk me, nothing like that. So now I am homeless pretty much. I do not have any ID. I have a department of corrections ID. So any job I applied for as soon as they see that they do not even want to look at me, they dont want to talk to me. I’m having a hard time. Now I am here trying to get some clothes and stuff like that.
Colleen: What brought you here (to Matthew's Hope)?
Al: A friend of mine told me about it. Another homeless person told me.
Colleen: Where do you see yourself in 5-10 years?
Al: Well, as long as I stay clean and sober I see myself, if somebody will actually hire me with my record, I see myself probably having a decent future. I do the best I can with my record. As long as I stay clean and sober that is my main goal.
Colleen: Did you have a goal in life when you were younger? Something that you wanted to do?
Al: Like I said, you know me and my wife we had our son really young and we did not have time to set goals or nothing like that. We had irresponsible sex, you know, puberty, and all of that and then we had 2 more sons after that right behind each other. They live in (south Florida). She divorced me when I went to prison. She has remarried.
Colleen: Have you seen your children?
Al: I seen then a few months ago. they are grown now. I mean, they are doing alright.
Colleen: Do they know about you, where you are now?
Al: Yeah, they know.
Colleen: Looking back, what would you do differently?
Al: Maybe if my mom would not have moved me to Florida. If there was some way that her and my dad could resolve. My dad would have gotten help for his alcoholism, but then I would not be here and I would have never met my ex-wife. I would have never been here. I would have never dealt with the crack issues they have here, AIDS, you know. I think that if i had just never came here I would have been a lot better off. But then again I just have the personality that it could have happened anywhere, you know what I mean.
Colleen: (Without sounding 'preachy' I asked everyone a quick question about church) Do you attend church?
Al: No. I have not found a church yet. I have only been out a couple weeks and I am just trying to survive. You know what i mean.
Colleen: Describe a typical day.
Al: Typical day for me is get up, sleep in the woods, get up and try to find a job. Try to find something to eat. Just try to make it through the day without using drugs and alcohol basically.
Colleen: Do you live in the same place all the time?
Al: Yeah. Last week was my first week here. You are not going to believe it. They (Matthew's Hope) gave me a tent. They gave me a sleeping bag, everything I needed. This is only my second time here. I am amazed at how much help they give here to people. I cannot believe how they can fund it. It feels like kind of a community situation. Like I said it is only my 2nd time here. I really do not know anybody. There are a couple of people that I used to use with that are here that are clean and sober now, and uh, they seem to have their act together and they seem to like it here. I mean they do a lot here for people. I cannot believe it.
** More with Al next time.
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